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Wiki Education assignment: Gender and Politics in Global Perspective

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 15 January 2023 and 26 April 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Angel.e.sosa (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Jeffers.s9, Isad15.

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Why isn't Black Lives Matter mentioned? 192.118.27.253 (talk) 11:24, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is arguably the most important Identity Politics movement 192.118.27.253 (talk) 11:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contemporary identity politics issues/groups/movements

I believe it's important to add information about some of the most famous contemporary groups/identities as it relates to identity politics. This will include information about #BlackLivesMatter, the counter movement, #AllLivesMatter, Proud Boys, and Antifa. Wrig36 (talk) 01:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wrig36 Agreed. At the very least, I think the introduction can do a better job of explaining more clearly that the term applies to an incredibly wide range of ideologies and political rhetoric. I'm making an edit that better comports with WP:INTEXT for the first source used and more precisely explains the concept based on all cited references used in this article. Map42892 (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Undue weight assigned to Brendan O'Neill quote

This is a comment on the "undue weight" reference to this quote.

It is useful to look at the psychology of identitiation ie is it a self centred thought process? This is what the last sentence of the Wikipedia quote asserts. The quote suggests consequences of identification - "surround themselves with a moral force field". The process of identification inevitably changes the way people interact with the identifier. It can also lead to the checking of thoughts and speech. In contrast not identifying "as anything" maximises the opportunities for interaction.

I feel the intent of the quote does not provide "undue weight" but there may be better words to comment on the sociology/psychology of the internal process in the individual asserting identity. A more community valuable approach is to identify the issue as this is much more objective in its thought process. Sigma1950 (talk) 01:09, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the quote. There are countless opinion columnists, and this topic doesn't need more hot air. A reliable, independent source would need to indicate to us why Brendan O'Neill (columnist)'s hot take from one 2015 column is important enough to include, and from that, we could decide if this particular quote is the best way to summarize that column. Lacking such an indication, this doesn't belong. Grayfell (talk) 01:17, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Peterson

Jordan Peterson is described as a right-wing activist, which is a simplification. 79.211.19.69 (talk) 14:53, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't in the source, and we don't describe him that way at Jordan Peterson, so I removed it. There are further issues, like figuring out how best to introduce him ("media commentator" maybe?) and whether it makes sense to include him in the "Classical liberal critique" section. He describes himself as a classical liberal, but I don't think independent sources tend to. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]